The more i think about this rule, the more ludicrous it feels

Can you imagine Alex Ferguson telling Rooney he couldnt play in a champions league final cos he'd played too many games or a Liverpool manager telling Michael Owen he couldnt play for England in the world cup cos he'd played too many club games for Liverpool


i appreciate there is a player welfare thought behind it, but surely that must be on the club / coaching team to recognise when a player is fatigued etc. They have so much information available to them now, that they are in such a good place.


I train for triathlons, and I / coaches can see everything about me via an online app with data from my watch. Every session i complete has relevant information about Heart Rate / Fatigue etc ,and that along with my feedback can allow training sessions to be changed especially if my data is showing i am fatigued. Surely if i can do that as a rank amateur, then professional organisations will have far more data available to them from every weights session, training session and match to be able to make a judgement on a player. Very often when a young player is introduced, they are drip fed, with the odd exception, but as fans we can see the drop in performance if they have played too much, and the scenario is often a game or 2 on the sidelines. That part isnt rocket science, so surely with everything available this ruling / proposed ruling needs to be pushed back on by the clubs

Thought I would try and resurrect this a little as this place has been dead for a while now. There are loads of posters not posting anymore, I'm even missing my previous arch-nemesis Phuzzy 


So the question is- are any of you missing Saints being as strong as we used to be (obviously you don't want us to win trophies)


The reason I ask is that I have seen a couple of Wigan fans on Twitter recently saying that they feel HKR fans are unbearable and are missing a strong Saints- with the explanation being that at least we have a strong history as a club. 


I get that in the main as even though, I am a Utd fan I despise Liverpool but I do have more respect for them as a club than say City or Chelsea, due to their history. 


I've noticed for a while now that we barely get a mention on here win or lose, good or bad which shows how far we have fallen as a threat to Wigan. Conversely on Red Vee (and to be fair it is a much less toxic place now) Wigan are mentioned frequently (not all bad I hasten to add, indeed lots of times they are held up as setting the standards on and off the field)


So I guess this is a long winded way of me asking the simple question....


Do you miss us?

I don't think you've gone, by more it seems luck rather than good judgement you've found a balance in your team.
Keeping Whitby and Walmsley fresh will be Wellens' big challenge and then getting Welsby back for the business end will be a massive boost, obviously he has to play but the re-shuffle that will entail will probably determine how far you get.
He's the best full back in the league but that does give Wellens the problem of getting the half back combination right.

For me I think SL is at its best when Wigan, Saints and Leeds are all strong.


I want to win everything, that's obvious. IF we can't however then I want Saints or Leeds to win it. Why? Because of the sheer effort each of those clubs delivers for the league. Proper youth development, big fan bases, rich histories stuffed with great players. You reap what you sow in life and those clubs only add to the sport, whilst so many others take, take take. 

Very interesting that you rate Welsby higher than Field.....

I personally think that Robertson has been the bigger shining light this season in a completely unfamiliar new role. Dagnall has also lessened the impact of losing Murphy for the second time this season (who had looked really good prior to his latest injury)

Very interesting viewpoint and one that I would guess isn't shared by the vast majority of Wigan fans!