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How did Salford Red Devils get in this mess?
In April 2023 Salford Red Devils launched a community share scheme entitled “Reds Rise Together.” The aim was to raise between £250K - £2M to secure the long-term future of the club. Along with raising of capital, there were a number of commercial targets, like growing average attendances by 2000, securing income streams on matchdays and securing a long-term lease with money through refreshment sales.
SRD Holdings LTD Profit & Loss
Actual 2021 Actual 2022 Estimated 2023 Estimated 2024 Estimated 2025
Total Income 2612209 3154036 3469440 3900613 4321405
Total Expenditure 2961643 3734884 3873761 4395060 4511381
Profit/Loss Before Tax (349434) (58084icon_cool.gif (404321) (494447) (189976)
The aim was to reduce the £580K loss in 2022 to a more manageable £189K loss in 2025 and break even some time in the near future. According to ChatGPT SRD were able to raise an incredible £1.5M, more conventional search engines put the figure at over £250K on the 30th May 2023.
The rest of the prospectus appears to have been less successful. Objective 3: To increase average match attendance by 2000 within 3 years. This in reality requires Salford to achieve average attendances of 6000 in 2025. The average figure in a successful season like 2024 was only 4646 way below the projected figure. This greatly impacts on the estimated income of nearly £4M which also incorporates the projected income stream for refreshments, which incidentally has still not been negotiated with Salford City Council, even though the season starts in just over two weeks time.
Salford City Council have periodically propped up the club with loans and grants to cover shortfalls in the SRD coffers. ChatGPT states that, “As of the latest available information, Salford Red Devils owe £1.6 million to Salford City Council. This debt primarily relates to the club's lease at the AJ Bell Stadium, and there have been ongoing discussions between the council and the club about restructuring this debt.”
Salford City Council have recently bought out Peel Holding for £7M at a time when most councils in England and Wales are strapped for cash. Salford City Council is believed to be £1.5 Billion in debt.
Salford Red Devils have far exceeded the goodwill of Salford City Council, and the Rugby League club have used the council like a personal piggy bank. They have assumed that possible income streams are available to be spend before they receive the money and in many cases the money never arrives. They have massively overprojected their ability to attract additional fans and to maximise commercial opportunities. How envious the SRD community board must be when they look West down the East Lancashire Road and see the Leigh Leopards achieving everything that they set out to do in the “Reds Rise Together” prospectus.
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/p ... digital_(1).pdf
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/p ... s_plan.pdf
The Salford debacle is only a few weeks away from being rectified one way or another. 30th January marks this months pay day (do they have the funds to pay?)
9th February marks Salford's first competitive game of the season and the need to register players with the RFL. Without a new paymaster will the £1.2M salary cap be enforced.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wh ... strictions
Using the Wrexham takeover of a community club as an example - it took 6 months from NDA to announcement, and a further 3 months to ratify. Salford need to wrap it all up in less than 6 weeks or players are walking out on voided contracts.
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How did Salford Red Devils get in this mess?
In April 2023 Salford Red Devils launched a community share scheme entitled “Reds Rise Together.” The aim was to raise between £250K - £2M to secure the long-term future of the club. Along with raising of capital, there were a number of commercial targets, like growing average attendances by 2000, securing income streams on matchdays and securing a long-term lease with money through refreshment sales.
SRD Holdings LTD Profit & Loss
Actual 2021 Actual 2022 Estimated 2023 Estimated 2024 Estimated 2025
Total Income 2612209 3154036 3469440 3900613 4321405
Total Expenditure 2961643 3734884 3873761 4395060 4511381
Profit/Loss Before Tax (349434) (58084icon_cool.gif (404321) (494447) (189976)
The aim was to reduce the £580K loss in 2022 to a more manageable £189K loss in 2025 and break even some time in the near future. According to ChatGPT SRD were able to raise an incredible £1.5M, more conventional search engines put the figure at over £250K on the 30th May 2023.
The rest of the prospectus appears to have been less successful. Objective 3: To increase average match attendance by 2000 within 3 years. This in reality requires Salford to achieve average attendances of 6000 in 2025. The average figure in a successful season like 2024 was only 4646 way below the projected figure. This greatly impacts on the estimated income of nearly £4M which also incorporates the projected income stream for refreshments, which incidentally has still not been negotiated with Salford City Council, even though the season starts in just over two weeks time.
Salford City Council have periodically propped up the club with loans and grants to cover shortfalls in the SRD coffers. ChatGPT states that, “As of the latest available information, Salford Red Devils owe £1.6 million to Salford City Council. This debt primarily relates to the club's lease at the AJ Bell Stadium, and there have been ongoing discussions between the council and the club about restructuring this debt.”
Salford City Council have recently bought out Peel Holding for £7M at a time when most councils in England and Wales are strapped for cash. Salford City Council is believed to be £1.5 Billion in debt.
Salford Red Devils have far exceeded the goodwill of Salford City Council, and the Rugby League club have used the council like a personal piggy bank. They have assumed that possible income streams are available to be spend before they receive the money and in many cases the money never arrives. They have massively overprojected their ability to attract additional fans and to maximise commercial opportunities. How envious the SRD community board must be when they look West down the East Lancashire Road and see the Leigh Leopards achieving everything that they set out to do in the “Reds Rise Together” prospectus.
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/p ... digital_(1).pdf
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/p ... s_plan.pdf
The Salford debacle is only a few weeks away from being rectified one way or another. 30th January marks this months pay day (do they have the funds to pay?)
9th February marks Salford's first competitive game of the season and the need to register players with the RFL. Without a new paymaster will the £1.2M salary cap be enforced.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wh ... strictions
Using the Wrexham takeover of a community club as an example - it took 6 months from NDA to announcement, and a further 3 months to ratify. Salford need to wrap it all up in less than 6 weeks or players are walking out on voided contracts.
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| Absolute disgrace from Paul Rowley, brilliant coach arguable best coach in the league with Lam but he was way off the mark with this one.
The side he put out last week against Midlands would of given St Helens a decent enough game. Its not the RFL, super league or anyone's fault other than Salford regarding there finances.
2 points deducted required imo.
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| My take is both sides are at fault. Salford for spending more than they can afford is the crux of the problem and they should be penalised as such. The RFL for allowing the situation to drag on. They should have allowed Salford to field their strongest team and punished Salford with a points deduction rather than letting this farce play out in front of the BBC cameras. Unfortunately, we have no strong leadership or common sense in the RFL.
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| Quote WYSIWYG2="WYSIWYG2"My take is both sides are at fault. Salford for spending more than they can afford is the crux of the problem and they should be penalised as such. The RFL for allowing the situation to drag on. They should have allowed Salford to field their strongest team and punished Salford with a points deduction rather than letting this farce play out in front of the BBC cameras. Unfortunately, we have no strong leadership or common sense in the RFL.'"
I agree the RFL have handled the whole situation poorly, ever since the request for advanced funds was made. But the team selection made by Rowley was an absolute disgrace. They knew and accepted the salary cap conditions as part of receiving the advance, and what that reduced cap does is stop Salford from fielding a team that is funded by an advance not available to other clubs.
To not pick the first teamers they could pick was bad enough. To only go with 3 subs is dreadful. There should be some punishment dished out for this, and given their willingness to throw these kids into impossible situations, I'd be asking serious questions about whether they should be allowed and elite academy license. They ought to be put on notice that they will revoke that if they pull such a stunt again.
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| What I can’t get my head around, is why img didn’t spot any issues around there finances when they were doing there gradings. As for Rowley saying about players meeting each other for the first time, total .
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Narked RAMBLE ALERT!
Quote satanicmills="satanicmills"nonsense the result on thursday got biggest coverage friday than rl has had for yonks our first win in wiggin for 40 years plus might also stick in the mind
salford had far too much space on this forum'"
Were Bongser to have his thoughts “dissed” by the real ee cummings, he would indeed be flattered (if a little alarmed, as said gent has been dead for 62 years), but he accepts no pale imitations! “Diss-missed!”
Bongser spoke of the collective mind, not yours. As B got into work today, the cleaner, Brian (Manc, works Sunday to Thursday) spoke not about Wigan 0-1 Leigh, but about the farce with Saints.
Derek has been very supportive of Salford in their inpecunity (see his posts/tweets passim), but he seems well dischuffed with Rowley’s shenanigans:
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/derek-be ... ed-stories
The RFL also seems less than impressed:
https://www.totalrl.com/rfl-launch-inve ... ens-clash/
Though, with the RFL as ever moving slower than an iceberg (will there be any icebergs left by the time they act? And, no, Bongser is not talking about lettuces (or Liz Truss)) will anything meaningful happen. They’ve given Salford a week to respond. Why a week in this “instant” day & age?
Postpone any ratification of the new ownership until a response is forthcoming; keep the sanctions in place; and if Rowls (to borrow a cudgel from Leythig) pulls the same stunt again versus Leeds on Saturday, come down hard!
satanic mills, Bongser presumes that you derive your name from William Blake, He also wrote, “There is a grain of sand in Lambeth that Satan cannot find.”
Is there a grain of integrity in Mr Integrity? Will he hold up his hands, admit that he behaved deplorably, apologise and accept the consequences? Or will he come out all-guns-blazing like Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid?
If the latter, Bongser can only see a picture of Paul Rowley fade into sepia to a Bacharach soundtrack concerning raindrops and a dikk-ead!
Rant over!
For now…..
Annoyed of Atherton (name & address supplied).
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Narked RAMBLE ALERT!
Quote satanicmills="satanicmills"nonsense the result on thursday got biggest coverage friday than rl has had for yonks our first win in wiggin for 40 years plus might also stick in the mind
salford had far too much space on this forum'"
Were Bongser to have his thoughts “dissed” by the real ee cummings, he would indeed be flattered (if a little alarmed, as said gent has been dead for 62 years), but he accepts no pale imitations! “Diss-missed!”
Bongser spoke of the collective mind, not yours. As B got into work today, the cleaner, Brian (Manc, works Sunday to Thursday) spoke not about Wigan 0-1 Leigh, but about the farce with Saints.
Derek has been very supportive of Salford in their inpecunity (see his posts/tweets passim), but he seems well dischuffed with Rowley’s shenanigans:
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/derek-be ... ed-stories
The RFL also seems less than impressed:
https://www.totalrl.com/rfl-launch-inve ... ens-clash/
Though, with the RFL as ever moving slower than an iceberg (will there be any icebergs left by the time they act? And, no, Bongser is not talking about lettuces (or Liz Truss)) will anything meaningful happen. They’ve given Salford a week to respond. Why a week in this “instant” day & age?
Postpone any ratification of the new ownership until a response is forthcoming; keep the sanctions in place; and if Rowls (to borrow a cudgel from Leythig) pulls the same stunt again versus Leeds on Saturday, come down hard!
satanic mills, Bongser presumes that you derive your name from William Blake, He also wrote, “There is a grain of sand in Lambeth that Satan cannot find.”
Is there a grain of integrity in Mr Integrity? Will he hold up his hands, admit that he behaved deplorably, apologise and accept the consequences? Or will he come out all-guns-blazing like Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid?
If the latter, Bongser can only see a picture of Paul Rowley fade into sepia to a Bacharach soundtrack concerning raindrops and a dikk-ead!
Rant over!
For now…..
Annoyed of Atherton (name & address supplied).
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