Why wouldn't Clark be back? His missus had a baby a week ago.

No reason that he couldn't play, I'm just going off the phrasing used by Price.

Where did your expert knowledge of Saints' 3/4 line come from?.

Saints backs are not as good as Wire. Period

Makinson was suspended, Percival is broken. He's lasted about 20 minutes on his last two or three returns from injury. I didn't think he'd start the game to be honest and it clearly backfired. Logical step is then to move Naiqama to the wing and then Welsby goes and tops it off by getting injured leaving Knowles and Bentley at centre. Not many teams would cope with that mess too well.

Really? You scraped through a tight game through the flukiest of tries. If Percival stays on Saints win IMO.



For me as individiuals:



Coote = Ratchford

Makinson > Charnley

Grace > Lineham

Percival > King

Naiqama < Gelling (When he's focused)

Lomax > Widdop

Fages < Austin

Are you conveniently forgetting the perfectly good try we had chalked off? Wire went up a gear when needed and saints couldn’t live with it.

Grace is a speed merchant. Never understood the hype tbh.

this weekends result is turning out to be even better than the cup (final) win, the boiling over the last 48 hours is on another level.



the revisionist history work on this match is a thing of beauty, the laundry list of things that if they hadn't gone against them, they would have beat us.

Conveniently forgetting we had a perfectly good try ruled out, daryl clark had a massive sit down and one of our marquees wasnt playing. Last five big games 5-0 to us, more than makes up for those last minute league game victories of theirs.

Is this some sort of tongue in cheek joke?

I think the retribution against the Wire win must have been the subject of apoplectic seizure for the last couple of days. At least some Saints fans have been graceful in defeat.

I'm sure their first try had a forward pass in it.

Someone posted on Twitter that this was the 10th consecutive knockout win against Saints. Not sure if that's true or not?

It's the same both ways though, surely you can see that. You are all talking as if you beat us by 60 and played us off the park. Had we finished off one of Taia's breaks in the last 10 minutes, this place would be full of threads about Chris Hill's captaincy and Price's future. Fine margins in sport.



The truth is neither side were in control of that game. We were awful for large parts of the game and yet in the last ten mintues we were 2 points down and we made multiple breaks in your half and just didn't finish them off. I said before the game that all the trophies this year are between those two sides and I'll stick with that. You've clearly got the edge over us in big games, so I'd have you favourites now but it's not like you're incapable of losing to someone else along the way and gifting the big prize to us.

What don't you agree with? You'd have all the Wire players over all the Saints ones?

Could well be, but I'd imagine that would go back to pre-Super League?

Some ex commentators may call that a hoodoo

See the thing is, we're used to getting screwed out of victories against saints, see the phantom sinbinnings last year for soft , which turned games.



Or the forward pass that was so forward it time travelled to to 2030.

Grace can't defend..throw a high ball up players running at him and he.ll drop more than he catches..other end near try line he's deadly....average realty

Got your excuses in before and after the game, at least consistent. The real consistency of course is the inability to give credit where it is due.

For coote v ratchford can't split em

Same with tommy 5 bans and charnley..lineham all day long and I'm not a fan of lineham word up look a like v gelling it would be word up look a like..Lomax all day v watsup

..ages or Austin.Austin by a mile and another mile...if we had one on hookers Clark would run rings around golden boy

Your team were missing one outside back, and so did ours, hence a weak excuse before we even kicked a ball.

By the way, this is what you really thought after the game:



=#FF0000Hate to say I told you so, but that outcome was very predictable. We're shocking in big games and we simply won't beat them in a meaningful game. Our only chance of winning SL this year is not getting them in the semi or final.



I'd love to know what happened just before lockdown. The team played so freely, looked so sharp and fit. Today we looked like we were playing in thick mud, we looked slower man for man than they did. And their fitness was way better than ours, which is worrying.



Ultimately now I've calmed down about the refereeing (Which was shocking. If I were Saints I'd request a meeting about it to review his decisions, several of them were just shockingly bad in terms of the consistency of his application. He hammered us and let everything go for them. He definitely refereed the game differently depending on who had the ball) and it is clear we lost the game primarily because of Percival going off the field. We ended up with Bentley and Knowles in the centres it seems and we were struggling from then on. But we still had to make errors for them to score. The tackling for Ashton's try was pathetic, Charnley's try was ridiculous as well. They were tired and just gave up at that point, players like Lomax and Coote just standing and watching the most blatant inside run from Charnley. He's so slow these days it's really frustrating to watch him slice through our line and walk in without anyone laying a finger on him.



We need to be better than that. It's that simple. Work to do on recruitment for next season which I don't think we've got the stomach for at the moment given the hit to the finances Covid has provided. I also think we'll have to sack Woolf at the end of the year.



Why can't you just give some credit to the other sides players and coach for being the better team for once, and just man up?

Not sure about the backs, but let me tell you our forwards wipe the floor with the Saints pack - Walmsley aside none of them would get in the starting 13, and Alex is desperately trying to keep old father time at arms length.



Graham is shot

Roby is ok but a shadow of his former self

Bentley, Lees and Knowles all massively overrated

Smith not SL class, certainly not top 4 SL class

Taia ok but wrong side of 30

LMS mouth well ahead of brains and ability

Peyroux failed centre and nothing more

Lineham and Widdop didn’t play.



Ratchford is a lot better than Coote. Off the scale better. Taller faster multi positional Makinson over Charnley I’d agree

Grace over Lineham??!!! you’re deluded. Lineham is about 6” taller and 2 stone heavier.

Percival King similar.

Gelling Naiqama. 5ft 10” about 14.5 stone vs Gelling 6ft 4” and 16 stone ...ultra bigger and heavier.

Fages Austin...5ft 8” 12.5 stone midget vs 6ft 1” nearly 15 stone stand off...!

Widdop Lomax 5ft 10” 14 stone vs Widdop 6ft 15 stone halfback. Jury is out at the mo on Widdop, on paper....bigger heavier than Lomax. I like Lomax though. A trier.

Ratchford > Coote

Makinson > Charnley

Percival = King

Gelling > Naiqama

Lineham = Grace

Austin > Fages

Lomax > Widdop

Walmsley > Hill

Clark > Roby

Cooper > Graham

Taia > Hughes

Currie > Lees

BMM > Knowles