ok so did you miss the Castleford game where he played dire? and was constantly haunched over taking in breathes? Or are you just going to ignore the list of injured players i have just provided because it suits you better? Yeah I'm sure Wane is happy losing to Wakefield and not being top of the league any more, stupid comment to make really.

Are you =#FF0000(I will not dodge the swear filter) serious? You're throwing Joel Tomkins in?



Tony =#FF0000(I will not dodge the swear filter) club? Dom crosby?





The only injuries worth a damn are bowen, green, mcilorum and o'loughlin. That's the injury crisis right there, the spine of the team. It's only recently you've lost some of those. For most of the 'crisis' you've had your spine bar o'loughlin.

dont comment on a team if you don't watch them,



Tony clubb was our best prop before he got injured stats will prove it and Dom Crosby will always be in the first 17 in big games. So i guess you stop swearing and keep stum.



so the only injuries worth mentioning is our full back, scrum half, hooker and loose forward, talk about another stupid comment. Not to forget we have 4 props injured.

Don’t forget you've missed out a pivotal team member. The tea lady, hasn't she bust her hamstring? Wigan will really struggle and miss her presence.

i love the replies were the poster has no come back to a legit post so they post utter rubbish in an attempt to divert the post, like Dwayne Dibley above.



Why would you post nonsense like shaun Wane's dog got sick can we add him to the list? why wouldn't you try to be constructive and try to add a legitimate objection to my post?



"Its better to let people think you are stupid than to open your mouth and prove it".

It just seems you are getting you excuses in early. Lighten up.

Not at all just providing facts, and the facts right now are we aren't in the best shape and you should win. It should be a tough game for both teams no matter who wins. I try not to make excuses against saints because our under 16's should beat you

Whilst I think he is overrated slightly by them, Wigan will miss McIllorum on Friday, his aggression in defence in particular.



We've got a good chance I think. There's no excuse for a non performance after some of our recent displays and Good Friday and I expect them to. Whether we win or not I don't know but the players know how important this game is after some really disappointing displays in the bigger games.

If Roby and Peacock escaped suspension then I would expect the same leniency to be extended to Farrell but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.

Because two players with clean records for 10+ years is the same as a player banned in the last 2 years? Or because because the incidents were totally the same?

Banning sex! bloody hell what goes on at these so called training sessions? I’ve heard of team building, but that’s a little bit too far. And as for Friday this is Saint’s best chance for ages so if they don’t take it then they must definitely have a motivational problem.

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I'd wait and see how many of Lomax, Jones, Swift, Amor and Laffranchi are available before I'd call it our best chance for ages.



I also wouldn't be surprised to see an influx of your "injured" players return as well as the inevitable let-off for Gelling and Farrell.

I'm afraid I don't expect anything but a belting in the derby at the moment, irrespective of form or injuries.

Farrell has taken the EGP according to this: www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-6690685

Farrell has taken the EGP according to this: www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-6690685

I said in a thread last week that a good win against Cas wouldn't surprise me because it was the kind of game we are used to winning. Of course it was an important win, but I still don't think it really tells us anything about where we're up to in terms of challenging for the title. The derby, when we're outside of our comfort zone and facing a doubtless very physical challenge, is the benchmark. If we go out and stamp some authority on that match then I might start believing. A bit. But as it stands I expect us to get manhandled again.

The way people talk you would think that we haven't beaten Wigan for 25 years.....but in reality they have a winning streak against us of 1 game! We beat them less than 12 months ago, and we should beat them this week.

I think you're being a bit naive if you can't/won't acknowledge that we have been well and truly bullied and battered in the recent derbies that matter. In the game last year at LP they rested their side as they had the cup semi the week after.

I hope the game plan is to put lots of pressure on Matty Smith and target the energy levels of Shirley, if we can control these two then we control the game on our terms.

We started OK against Cas with our defence so a repeat is needed on Friday, our attacking game will look after itself if we manage to complete our sets.

My expectation is that our pack have unfinished business and will be up for this one.

I could make a very good team out of the players who missed Sundays game.

Bowen, Manfredi, Bateman, Thornley, Burgess, Green, Hampshire, Crosby, McIlorum, Dudson, Pettybourne, Clubb, O'Loughlin.



That as a starting XIII would match most sides in Superleague. If you then added Taylor, Flower, Farrell and Smith as bench players it would a very good side.



Hopefully we'll get a few of those back for Friday, but if not we'll go with what we've got available and we won't be beat for lack of effort.

Rogues you have now posted that same message on 3 different sites - we get it, you had players missing!

Saints have never had injuries ever, not like Wigan's injuries. Wigan's injuries are special. Whatever injuries anyone else have ever had, Wigan have more and bigger.

Haha I've just been thinking that. At times this season our injuries have been into double figures and we were told to get on with it and stop complaining. Now these lot have injuries they are drawing up fantasy line-ups from their array of absent "stars." Typical blinkered behaviour from our neighbours.

Seems everyone is in fine fetal for this one.

Didn,t we have a similar injury crisis in our home game with an in form Leeds and beat them with kids. Goons can still be a very dangerous side whatever team they put out so that needs to be the mindset, setting the marker down in the first 10 mins will be the major factor in this game.